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Dates
The name Talath Rhúnen seems to have fallen out of use after the Return of the Noldor, but the land itself endured through most of the First Age, until it was wasted and abandoned in the Dagor Bragollach, probably in I 455
Location
The land east of Gelion, from Mount Rerir in the north to the river Ascar in the south
Race
Elves
Division
Latterly occupied by the Noldor
Settlements
The halls of Caranthir were beside Lake Helevorn, in the far north of the land
Pronunciation
ta'lath rhoo'nen (rh represents a voiceless or untrilled 'r' sound)
Meaning
Translated as 'East Vale'1
Other names
Dor Caranthir, East Vale, Land of Caranthir, Thargelion

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Talath Rhúnen

The East Vale

Map of Talath Rhúnen

The original Sindarin name for the wide northerly plainlands between the River Gelion and Ered Luin. The name is translated 'East Vale' (though talath relates to a wide, flat area, suggesting a very broad northern vale of Gelion). After their return to Middle-earth, the Noldor gave this land a name of their own, Thargelion, meaning simply the 'land beyond Gelion'. It was here that Caranthir son of Fëanor settled, and from him it derived a third name, becoming known as the land of Caranthir, or Dor Caranthir.


Notes

1

The word talath is said to have derived from a word meaning 'flat' or 'plain', and indeed the name Talath Dirnen is translated as the 'Guarded Plain'. The same word could also be used for wide valleys, hence the translation of Talath Rhúnen as 'East Vale' rather than 'East Plain'. This was a wide flat land that nonetheless sloped downwards from the Blue Mountains in the east to the river Gelion in the west.

See also...

Dor Caranthir, East Vale, Land of Caranthir

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Talath Rhúnen

The East Vale

Dates
The name Talath Rhúnen seems to have fallen out of use after the Return of the Noldor, but the land itself endured through most of the First Age, until it was wasted and abandoned in the Dagor Bragollach, probably in I 455
Location
The land east of Gelion, from Mount Rerir in the north to the river Ascar in the south
Race
Elves
Division
Latterly occupied by the Noldor
Settlements
The halls of Caranthir were beside Lake Helevorn, in the far north of the land
Pronunciation
ta'lath rhoo'nen (rh represents a voiceless or untrilled 'r' sound)
Meaning
Translated as 'East Vale'1
Other names
Dor Caranthir, East Vale, Land of Caranthir, Thargelion

Indexes:

About this entry:

  • Updated 2 May 2025
  • This entry is complete

Talath Rhúnen

The East Vale

Map of Talath Rhúnen

The original Sindarin name for the wide northerly plainlands between the River Gelion and Ered Luin. The name is translated 'East Vale' (though talath relates to a wide, flat area, suggesting a very broad northern vale of Gelion). After their return to Middle-earth, the Noldor gave this land a name of their own, Thargelion, meaning simply the 'land beyond Gelion'. It was here that Caranthir son of Fëanor settled, and from him it derived a third name, becoming known as the land of Caranthir, or Dor Caranthir.


Notes

1

The word talath is said to have derived from a word meaning 'flat' or 'plain', and indeed the name Talath Dirnen is translated as the 'Guarded Plain'. The same word could also be used for wide valleys, hence the translation of Talath Rhúnen as 'East Vale' rather than 'East Plain'. This was a wide flat land that nonetheless sloped downwards from the Blue Mountains in the east to the river Gelion in the west.

See also...

Dor Caranthir, East Vale, Land of Caranthir

Indexes:

About this entry:

  • Updated 2 May 2025
  • This entry is complete

For acknowledgements and references, see the Disclaimer & Bibliography page.

Original content © copyright Mark Fisher 2006, 2023, 2025. All rights reserved. For conditions of reuse, see the Site FAQ.

Website services kindly sponsored by myDISCprofile, the free online personality test.
How do your personal strengths fit in with career matching? How can you identify them? Try a free personality test from myDISCprofile.